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03-17-2010, 06:00 PM
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ergh....
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03-17-2010, 06:21 PM
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that skinny runt needs sorting, you regulate your spot like the ol boy surfers, you behave or get beat down period 
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03-17-2010, 06:46 PM
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Who exactly are the "local kiters" they consulted with on this matter.
Is it true there was also a confrontation with law enforcement?
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03-17-2010, 08:24 PM
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Look at this from almost nine years ago, Sep 12, 2001. Would have been great if we picked up on some of this.
From: http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/FKSA/message/130 Steve, The current ban extends to the entire area of Crandon Park on the east side of Key Biscayne and the launch to the north of that area off Virginia Key Beach. Bans are currently being considered for the area to the south of Rickenbacker Cswy, i.e. Hobie and Windsurfer Beaches largely because of a kite that was allowed to fly across traffic on the Causeway and other past antics. We are supposed to have moderate to high winds out of the SW this weekend. These winds are ideal for Hobie Beach. Considering past behavior, kitesurfing at speed inside the swimming buoys, losing control and letting go of kites with the onshore wind, we could well have a ban on the Causeway in a few days. To try to avoid this ban, I would suggest the following: 1. Everybody uses kite leashes and follow the rest of the kitesurfing guidelines. 2. Kites are launched and landed with assistance near the swim buoys, about 150 feet offshore. No kites are to be in the air inside of that area. 3. No kitesurfing inside the swim buoys. This last guideline is probably backed up by a county ordnance anyway. 4. Only intermedite to advanced kitesurfers should kitesurf off this area. If we want to keep the only decent launch for SW to W winds south of Ponce Inlet, we had better take charge of the situation and act carefully and responsibly. Otherwise, bring on the bans! As to other areas to kitesurf off Miami. I will post alternate spots and guidelines following Saturday's meeting at Crandon Park. Good luck, Rick << RICK... the ban on crandon..does it apply to the south side of the causeway just west of the seaquarium? or is it further into the park... we are headed down their the 23rd..if the ban is all along that beach..do you know of any alternative launch sites nearby that we can use... thanks..and i hope you are doing great.. Steve Pere kitesrfer@aol.com wrote: Currently, it is planned to have a short meeting with area coordinators that are available and other interested parties in the convention center at 9 am, Saturday, September 22, 2001. The exact location within the Center will be announced that morning. The meeting agenda will include meeting area coordinators in attendance, review of FKA goals and methods, seeking membership and related matters. Thanks, Rick Iossi >>
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03-17-2010, 08:51 PM
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thanks guys!
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03-19-2010, 07:52 AM
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Not sure what kiters were consulted previously, but we're trying to have discussions with authorities now.
Yes, it is my understanding there were incidents, frustrating deputies and inspectors with the authority in the past, more than once. I haven't been there during these incidents and so can't say with certainty who did what. This is a real bad way to try to protect your privilege to do anything. Kiters have been arrested before for what has been reported. It isn't that hard if the authorities set their mind to it. We would do well to spare them and ourselves this exercise in disrespect and stupidity on the part of the kiter. This is yet another area where peer pressure is needed to keep things sane and respectful. 99% percent of kiters won't do this, why allow yourselves to be represented badly by those that do? Get involved. Quote:
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FKA, Inc. transcribed by: Rick Iossi Last edited by ricki; 03-19-2010 at 12:41 PM.
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03-19-2010, 01:45 PM
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Folks, we have our hands full trying to fix the mess at Hobie. We're going to do our level best to try, no promises or assurances either. It is a serious long term problem after all. If enough riders in the community come out in support of sensible, responsible riding practices and promote the same, we may have a slim chance, or not. Time will tell and if looks like we have a shot we're going to need a LOT of visible support from the kiting community of this initiative in coming weeks.
I understand west wind was on again yesterday and riding behaviors were a "train wreck" yet again at Hobie. How stupid can we be to keep creating this problem? Pretty dumb it seems, if you care about all the time in training, gear you purchased, moves you've developed and love of the sport then ENOUGH. Get it offshore and keep it there at Hobie and motivate other kiters to do the same. Regardless, EFFECTIVE sustainable kiting practices WILL be needed to keep us flying at other spots. We've had our wake up call, time to get to it and support your privilege to ride by promoting responsible riding at your launches. Stay outside swim zones, stay away from bystanders while riding, avoid complaints, simple.
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03-19-2010, 02:26 PM
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Rick, u applaud your effort and dedication to keeping access opened. I think the problem is that those violators riding inside bouys at hobbie are not reading this forum. I guess it always goes back to self policing
Danny
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03-19-2010, 04:10 PM
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My name is A.J. Morgan, the U.S. Examiner for PASA..We would like to let everyone know, that "b" did take the ICP Course with Us in March 2008..Now, He did take the "Course", but He never followed up on "Getting Certified"..He did meet the requirements set by PASA to take the "Course", but never filed His paperwork..i.e, Student feed-back forms, Emergency Protocol, Ground Lesson Form, Water Lesson Form, etc..If a Student comes to the Course, and does not meet the requirements set by PASA or IKO to fill out the proper paperwork in a given time frame, then they CAN NOT say that "They are certified", from PASA or IKO's point of view..
PASA does not keep anyone from taking the ICP Course as long as you meet the requirements to be a Level Three Kiteboarder, that level could be different in IKO, but they too have their standards. So, "b" did take the Course, but never followed up on the "Certification to be an Instructor" thru PASA..The Student must show proof to PASA that He/She has taught over 30 New Student's/Newbie's to the Sport, to be considered a Level One Instructor thru PASA...Those are the rules...60 or more Students to be a Level Two Instructor, etc., etc.. So in PASA's eyes, "b" is NOT a Certified PASA Instructor, like He is portraying to be.. Last edited by ricki; 03-19-2010 at 05:38 PM.
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