Rickenbacker BANNED

[latino]

you all know my husband enrique and you know he is an instructor, we have been trying to make rules for years trying to keep kiteboarding going on in naples but the same thing happened just a while ago to us some moron was teaching in marco island and decided it would be ok to get mouthy with the beach patrol and guess what no more teaching in marco which really hurt our business but at the end of it the guy does not give a dame so your right there are some complete morons and i just dont understand these guys who think they can kite or teach any where they want but my word for these people is ignorant

kelly

[kent]

in fairness it is more than just a single person, it's just that fighting with authorities and upsetting businesses on the causeway by sneaking in to poach the venue really brings our group into a poor light.

there were about 50 kites on the water Sunday. 10-12 were riding in way too close and 1 repeat offender (same guy that has had multiple spats with the authorities) was teaching on the causeway. interestingly enough, he was teaching on a 12 meter kite when i was over powered on my 10 from time to time.

on a positive note, most of the other past offenders were out teaching on boats, etc. big props to these guys for stepping up to the plate to reduce pressure on spots that are being closely watched.

i'm not sure what the weekend will bring, but for darn sure now is the time to let the idiots know that we will not allow them to get our venues banned! let them know!

[ricki]

The list of easily accessible spots in Miami just became shorter. It was way too short already. Many local riders know the guys continually contributing to this problem here and elsewhere. Let's keep going hands off, what do you say, not bring any effective pressure to bear on these people.

Maybe we should start a website for knitting, hard to get banned from knitting right? That way, while we watch and in some cases help to piss away our privilege to ride through indifference we'll still have an "action" sport worthy of our efforts and concern for kiting.

Are you ok with more of this? If not, start letting these guys know, the ones that ride inside out of bounds areas, flip off authorities and generally paint kiters as irresponsible sociopathic idiots, that this sort of behavior needs to end now. Go hands off as in the past, there may well be more of the same.

[Unimog Bob]

Umm. We could start by naming this loser. Or did I miss that?
Several times over the years names have been withheld. Why?

Too bad the cops don't just video tape people repeatedly riding in the SZ at that spot and then fine them 200 bucks each time. They could make some serious money and maybe the spot could stay open.

[BigR]

Too bad the cops don't just video tape people repeatedly riding in the SZ at that spot and then fine them 200 bucks each time.

b/c there was no enforceable law on the books for the fine, it would have been thrown out in court.

now there is.

some poor kiter from outta town will now think it's a perfectly good day to kite there and get slapped with a $200 ticket even if he was courteously following all the previous rules.

I do not understand the redaction of the transgressors there either.

Hopefully they don't show up on MB or MH , but I'm sure they'll find a way
to spoil those venues too.

I remember many many (one-way) kitesurfing adventures across the RB bridge there on the Wip's. One time I even kitesurfed from the other side to hobie when John Kerry was windsurfing there. one of the best times me and Kent were out there on 7m foils on a SSW. this really really blows....I mean sucks.....

[miamikiteboarding]

very sad.
we had our opportunities to save it. Many times !
it just sliped out our hands for a same handfull of idiots.
We know it , we said it , we have seen it , we have talked about it , we even know the bad seeds, but we all let it happened. Now we cry.

Self policing has a very limited chance of success. Let's face it , in a community there will be always individuals not abiding by the rules, with no Integrity, no righteousness and no respect for self or others and at the end a threat for all of us.
It is because of those few individuals that rules are created and unfortunately enforcement is needed.

Well In the end it confirms me one thing : We are doing the right thing in Crandon and Matheson : Rules and beach marshalls may be a pain at first , but eventually that is how we protect us all against those idiots.

See it that way : to avoid getting all banned , we ban the bad guys in first lieu...
that's our job at a concession: not always easy for the poor guy in charge , but much more efficient in the long term for the preservation and the safety of the access to all conscious-minded riders.
In Miami at least we have no choice , with so limited riding spots, and so many potential liability issues , we are on close watch form the authorities.
Hobie is the exact example.

Not trying to make a profit from the situation, but we had skipped Hobie a long time ago ( 10 years now !) with our boats and shuttle to the flats all our students .
We have 2 brand new boats with Captains, now and available for shuttle on West wind.
Or for extended downwinders up to 15milles. Time to ride away from the beach and push the distances a bit.
check us out on www.miamikiteboarding.com and get on the Taxiboat line.

[Bimini Kiteboarding]

Same Pricks every time... I think Name and shame would be a good idea so everyone knows who it was and can stay well away from them next time. How about someone puts together some evidence and sends all this to the IKO and PASA and have there Qualification Removed, once that is removed then you can hit the forums hard about the illegal business that they run. Just my 2cents



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[admin]

as much as we might like to we cannot use names. the identity of this long term instructor's common knowledge here. other than perhaps 1 large kiter I can't give you the identity of the other 15 guys running on the inside. They know who they are as will kiters who give a damn to help try to avoid this next time

[Bimini Kiteboarding]

Fair enough for not naming people but if those where my beaches....

At the end of the day losing a beach to Kite from is one thing but what about the potential students that these guys are teaching? What if they get hurt? It not only buts a bad rep onto those that are doing the teaching but it puts a bad rep on the sport in general. If these guys are acting like such idiots then you all need to come together and report them to the necessary people and have it stopped. If they are a legitimate business then contact the IRS and see if they pay taxes? Find out if they are insured? If not report them to the police for Endangering people. There has to be something you guys can do.

It seems that this kind of thing has been going on for some time and it wont stop unless you as a community put a stop to it.

[Whitey]

I am very sorry to hear about this ban. but "call the IRS"?????