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03-14-2008, 10:21 AM
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Now I REALLY tried to quit bagging on you guys already, I really did.
Dumb replies get more smashing. You guys really should be wearing helmets, all tht crashing is affecting your ability to think and respond with sensible answers... No thanks on sharing the stroke B-obby, I don't like group sex... Side shore again? B-Rad, first it was side shore, then side on... Let's call it side-on-on and I might agree with ya. Assuming I am a newbie, wouldn't a slider pointed DIRECTLY at the beach be ridden in an "onshore wind"? Seems to me that side shore winds would have turned the slider parallel to the beach and we wouldn't be having this discussion. I heard the "we need to be close to the beach in case we get hurt" arguement many times, and my answer is this: Helmet,vest, and rigging your safety properly greatly reduces your chance of injury. Take the distance traveled from any kitemare or broken bridle scenario and apply it to the day in question. Thank goodness for those palm trees, or you would be in the parking lot. And BTW, I'm not the "kite police", this is our first real try at self regulation. Kent- Do you have those suits in Magnum-size? Next time, I'll just roll tape... (You can hate me if you want for slamming you, but I actually did you ALL a big favor and saved you from REAL embarrasment. At least I have the sack to speak up about it.... Rick- Normal kiting is 300' (100m)from shore, right? onshore/ high winds add 200' extreme riding (loops,sliders, etc) add 100 rigged suicide add 100 Thats 700' on any given sunday(onshore,windy)... probably about the distance to the_____. side/side off winds could be much closer of course. Later
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03-14-2008, 09:54 PM
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03-14-2008, 09:54 PM
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I've got three things to say to that... 1st of all, as for as the direction of the wind that day...you're right, the rail was pointed directly at the shoreline...and it was set up slightly downwind...(that means as you approach it, you bear off the wind a bit) It was pretty close to across the wind...which would point it directly at the shore...also we were making tacks to the back of Bobby's sailboat from the launch...so call that wind direction whatever you want but that's the direction of the day... 2nd, this isn't our "first real try at self regulation" we have been doing that down here since 1999...it might be YOUR first real try at self regulation...and a weak one at that... 3rd...I wouldn't be talking so much about having sac while you are still speaking anonymously... |
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03-15-2008, 02:10 AM
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props neil.....
lets just call them out.... it will make us all more responsible kiters.... I got your back, and will help you get numbnuts off your beach...there are plenty of laws pertaining to unsafe activity, public nusiance, potentially dangerous behavior.... maybe some officers reading this can give us some laws we can use to help us enforce our safety rules.... there are too many of us whose world would change if we couldn't kite... so just to be clear...if you kite in Islamorada and you are a jackass...I will put your picture and a description of what you did everywhere...accidents can happen...sure, we are all human...but there is a difference between an accident and a donkey...we won't be stupid about this, but if you have no respect for all the work we have done...you're gone... ride as hard as you ever have....just do it offshore... Sound familiar? (My advice to you is quit while you're B-hind, before I really embarass you.) Water under the B-ridge, whaddya say pal?
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03-15-2008, 08:46 AM
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not sure how you think that embarrasses me...
there is a difference between an accident and a donkey... which donkey do you want to call out from that session...because there were no accidents... and go ahead...I'm a big boy...really embarrass me... It still looks a little bad to be talking trash without a name...so anytime you really want to grow a sac, play in the big leagues and tell us who you are...go ahead... |
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03-18-2008, 11:36 AM
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Final post-
You are the donkey I called out B-Rad, its your "spot" and you're responsibility. If you can't see that I addressed a legitimate concern for your spot and you are floundering trying to justify a slider being 100' from the shore in high onshore winds(25-30), then you really are a dumbarse.There might have been no accidents that day, but there was at least 1 kite in a tree because loose kites travel DOWNWIND, and you're lucky no one was hurt. Who am I? A RECENT customer of yours. I spent hard earned money in your store. I am also every safe kiter who pays 10 bux to ride at WH and rides safely, and is insulted for Tier 1 Donkeys to show up and watch you kiss their arses instead of making them ride safely. Be a leader and forget about the popularity contest. Those guys don't pay your bills- WE DO. You don't want my real name, trust me. It will not be worth it, we are "on the same page", Remember? This thread was justified and I thank Rick for allowing me the freedom to express my concerns. He may cringe every time I post, but I believe he knows my "colorful posts" are meant for the good of everyone in our sport, even Brad, Bobby, and everyone else. Thanks Rick, and nice pics of safe kiters shredding with helmets. Got more? ( I suggest give him a day or so to read this and then delete everything in this thread except Brads initial post and your posts). Give him a mulligan and let him start over, and show us if he learned something. LONG LIVE FREESTYLE! (we hope...) B-safe
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03-18-2008, 01:27 PM
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ok...fair enough...final post
hey...thanks for shopping in the new store!!! Excuse the mess...we are in phase 2 construction...it will be looking really groovy in a few months...and the online store is getting a revamp too... www.sevensports.com (thanks for the plug!) novice or not...your point was taken about where the new cool slider should or should not be...we will apparently not agree on where it was that day...and that's ok...clearly riders were not (even Hamish) hitting a slider that was only 100 ft offshore in 20-25 onshore winds...and no way to have your kite loop three times and not hit the shore...there were three-loop falls all day...you feel it was close...I feel it was ok that day...point taken... well look into it and take your suggestion into account...thanks for submitting your legitimate complaint. For every other silly thing you said...you're definately not trying to make or keep a friend by saying things like Donkey Harbor...the time and energy to make a launch available to someone like you who so casually throws a derogatory name around in the name of "preserving access"...or what about al the other jabs...is there more to this??? Do you have some other problems with all the good we do for kiting? Am I not buying a product you are selling or something? And popularity contest??? KITEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME...no problems with a crew riding together...that makes it fun and entertaining! You might need to start thinking about preseving your own access. Mulligan...give me a start over???...don't try to bury your bashing...please keep it Rick! Look man...whoever you are...bring me a legitimate complaint...I'll listen all day long...start talking trash, and nobody want's to listen... |
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03-18-2008, 01:43 PM
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and to direct this thread back on a positive track...
freestyle is alive and well! kickers should be safely offshore... the "new" callout system should be specific and remain only about kiting if it is to be effective...also it should be accompanied by video as Kent describes in his comp...or else it ends like this... |
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03-18-2008, 11:06 PM
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Hey Rick- I you might need to put a hold on this magnum TI fellow. If you have a problem with brad perhaps you should address him directly. As for helmets etc look at snowboarding and skateboarding... that is the riders choice. Over -Regulation can kill the sport. Safety is important and I know brad works hard to keep that spot trouble free. As for slander on a forum that is the least diplomatic way to make your point.
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03-19-2008, 01:51 AM
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Slander is preaching on this forum that your all about safety and setting up a "cool new slider" on the beach 2 weeks later. Brad did that and I pointed it out. He just should have conceded instead of being defensive.
I only mentioned his biz because HE plugged it in a thread like this, not very bright... I did remove the name. Trouble free? Kite in a Tree. Rick will ban me once I am wrong, untruthful,or crossing the line. He's a fair guy and I wouldn't question his judgement. Are you all done yet?
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