Okay so I've tried bows, hybrids, C's and...

[inferno]

http://media.bestkiteboarding.com/ma..._manual_v1.pdf

http://www.bestkiteboarding.com/07Bar

[toby wilson]

Is it not a pulley bar like the TD bar???

[bryanleighty]

main difference is it uses a double line for the CL that has a slider stopper ...
big complaint in that there was no real way to setup a stopper on the cl without modding it.

i have not upgraded yet.. for a learner, its not neccesary.. save the 100$.. get the upgrade later.

if you are looking to milk out the most on a lightwind day on a waroo (or any bow kite) it is a great upgrade.

i will get one eventually.. just short on $$$ now.

[toby wilson]

The place I was working with only had 2 45mm bars and they were with kites so they wanted 285 for them. They were 07s though. I can't find a 45mm bar ANYWHERE!!! Any ideas or does anyone want to sell one? Would the ION bar work for now? Or even the 23" TD bar as long as she is careful?

[JoshTaylor]

Originally Posted by tomstock

Some hard yanks but no power during the invert, right Josh?

Inverting seems scary but from what I've seen it's not all that bad as long as the kite is fully sheeted out when it happens (which is almost always).

If you inverted (due to something weird like a botched transition) and the bar was stopper balled in place and fully powered up, i imagine you would have your spine ripped from your torso when it flipped over and went through the power zone!

:shock:

My opinion is that flat kites are safer when you are in control, but when something bad happens (inversion, tangled bridgle) they are MUCH more dangerous... that's why people do not like to ride them at the upper end of the range...

I've inverted the 9m waroo in about 25mph. Scary but not as bad as it seemed. It was just completely unexpected.

I don't think i've ever even really got yanked much at all... it's just a pain in the ass getting it back in the air. just don't misuse the depowering, use only what you need. if your going a bit to fast don't huck the bar out, just let it out a little. get worked.. same thing.. let it out a little.. they are so quickly responsive with the depower that you don't have to throw the bar out to stop, just push out a little bit. if you ride the cabrinhas theres a little stopper thing they shows you the point of 100% depower. as long as you don't go past that to much you'll be fine.

[bryanleighty]

yes.. those should work fine..

i have a 45cm waroo and 55cm 04 bar w/ upgrade (06) kit..

i can fly all my waroos with either bar but i would really only say that i like to fly my 16m with my larger bar to get the most out of it.. but i can fly it with a 45cm fine..

any bar with extra depower capability will work great with a waroo.. it just needs that extra throw to get the depower..

you can ride the waroo on a regular bar too.. just wont have the full range..

[toby wilson]

So then the 23" TD bar would be best on a 12 Waroo?

I would get the new 55 cm Waroo bar, if you can and don't mind paying for it.
I have been using it on my 15m Hyper and the 12m Atom.
It works great on both.
The 55cm bar will work fine on the 12m Waroo.
23 inches is almost 59 cms (frame of reference)

[inferno]

Originally Posted by toby wilson

So then the 23" TD bar would be best on a 12 Waroo?

no....
the TD bar has pulleys, the waroo bar does not
use the ion bar, its almost identical

[toby wilson]

Okay, does the Waroo relaunch like a C kite then?