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Old 09-10-2007, 12:18 PM
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Don't forget how strong and athletic Bill is. What comes very easy to him is damn near impossible for most. Daryl does the same thing, so I know it's possible.
I would feel more comfortable with a QR in a scenario of being on a 17m waroo in a gust to 35.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:35 PM
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I would feel more comfortable with a QR in a scenario of being on a 17m waroo in a gust to 35.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:53 PM
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If the QR on the waroo actually did something other than place the bar out of reach ........... lol. Fortunately the leash usually breaks instead of dragging you.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:06 PM
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when i had my line snap on my 9m waroo and the kite was looping .. it was slowing building power on every loop.. i had to hit the QR and it was a reality check that all it did was send the bar further away and still looping..

now.. that was an 06 bar w/o the dual lines (double the depower length).. i have not had the pleasure of dropping the kite on those lines yet..

anyone?

does the extra 20 inch of depower make a huge difference .. or just different problems?
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:10 PM
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bryan, FYI, the double depower does not mean length...
its exactly the same as a single lines in respect to the amoutn of depower......
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:29 PM
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does the extra 20 inch of depower make a huge difference .. or just different problems?
The double CL line only does one thing... it automatically releases the stopper ball. The depower amount is exactly the same as if you just let go of the bar while hooked in.

You only have two options with a waroo when you are overpowered and in trouble:

1) Crash the kite and grab or move your leash to the outside line before it relaunches. DONT FORGET TO UNDO THE VELCRO or the kite will relaunch and start looping immediately.

2) Pull the safety and then the leash release and ditch the kite completely.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:40 PM
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The double CL line only does one thing... it automatically releases the stopper ball. The depower amount is exactly the same as if you just let go of the bar while hooked in.

You only have two options with a waroo when you are overpowered and in trouble:

1) Crash the kite and grab or move your leash to the outside line before it relaunches. DONT FORGET TO UNDO THE VELCRO or the kite will relaunch and start looping immediately.

2) Pull the safety and then the leash release and ditch the kite completely.
this is why i switched back to fifth lines.... with (almost) any bow kite, if the wind goes from 15-35 and your leashed to the CL, your in trouble, they have great depower, but when you reach the limit.... then what????
with a Ckite, if it goes from 15-35 you just release to the fifth and the kite fully depowers, much safer for our fronts/squalls that we get alot....

also if the wind spikes and your ready for it, you just have to grab teh fifth line and pull in about 2-3 ft and your good, wait a few minutes for it to settle down and your off
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:03 PM
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tom.. that does not make sense.. i understand that it pulls thru the stopper.. but if the depower line is 20 inches X 2 (doubled over) .. when you release it should give a 40 inch depower right?

i assume this is still not enough to safely flag a kite...

check my next post.. creating a new forum thread..
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when i had my line snap on my 9m waroo and the kite was looping .. it was slowing building power on every loop.. i had to hit the QR and it was a reality check that all it did was send the bar further away and still looping..

now.. that was an 06 bar w/o the dual lines (double the depower length).. i have not had the pleasure of dropping the kite on those lines yet..

anyone?

does the extra 20 inch of depower make a huge difference .. or just different problems?
It makes a difference, yes indeed. However, the difference is a matter of just a few seconds. If it is gusting and you pull your quick release, you have only enough time to get your shit together, try to get that bar or a line, while the kite depowers, falls one way or the other to the water, before it relaunches on your ass! It is actually a very dangerous, stressful, panicking moment!... until you get that damn kite flagged out or ditch that bitch!

This has happened to me a few times now when I was on my 15 m waroo flying in 15 - 18 knots of wind and its suddenly spiked to 28 knots! Every time I quick released, the bar went out of reach, and I struggled to get it back and get that damn leash over on the end of the bar to hook into a back line, pull the oh-shit on the end and flag the kite out.

When it gusts almost twice as much as what you were just riding in and you get caught in it, your safety features become almost useless. If you can't get that kite flagged out quicker then it will relaunch on you, then DITCH THAT KITE! Don't find yourself at the mercy of the wind just moments after your quick release. You still have to take control! Otherwise, you may find yourself on the rocks too.
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