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Old 12-19-2005, 03:33 PM
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Thats my theory too more or less.
Big C for lightwinds. Med C for sweet-spot med winds and Bow for gusty high winds.

Anyway I have new Halos to try out if if ever gets windy again. Maybe I'll just get rid of everything and take up fishing. :roll:
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:49 PM
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Metteoís post proves my point about different opinions , if
Moylemuncher or any other kiter that has ridden the two types of kites
Post a reply, they would be different too, thereís
no such thing as the, Best kite! Thereís a few thing Metteo said,Ē I ď
disgree with and take note I mean, I(Shuman) is that a C Kite jumps higher than the Bow, Iíve been getting crazy airs with the bow Iíve never gotten with the C, as far
as tricks, itís all about, hang time with most of kite boarding tricks,
especially the handle pass, the more time you have in the air the easier
and better the trick will look, now you really donít expect to be doing any major
kite loops with a 16m Bow/27m lines not even a 16 C/27m lines can do major loops, but a few things have to be in place for really powered kite loops, a small high Aspect kite and short lines, 27m lines are not the preferred choice of the pros to be doing kite loops
but! again these are things
that can be debated on. That self launching with the Bow is something
that we can not debate on cause only Moyle has tried it, I would like for us
to go to club med and try different ways of trying to
self launch that thing. Then we can debate on this.
Kiting in light wind is like watching a plant grow,
no power, no jumps, no danger,no power whatís the since of even getting wet
a 16m C or bow is the biggest I would go. This season is starting to look
like itís going to suck , but I tell ya this,15-20 knots my 9-5 will be in the
water Iíll just suffer the punishment when I go to work the next day. Hey!
Balloon boy! Ya know I wants to be trying those Halos, I really want to
See how different Bow kites fly and respond, wouldnít it be funny, you
getting rid of all your C kites and getting a quiver of Haloís.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:43 PM
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Light air kiting may not be as fun as powered 20 kts kiting but IMO it beats gardening- which is about all you can do here these days.

The Lift 18m is fine for going back and forth and staying up wind in 8-10 knots or so at my weight. Which to me is still better than nothing at all. Then +11kts and I'm jumping. Thats the same kite I used in the upper teens when Matteo and Roger were on 12s and I was only about 1/3 depowered (but the wind was pretty steady that day) so no complaints about the range.

Anyway in early Jan I'll have a 21m reactor which I hear feels like a 15-16m and is supposed to do powered moves in the same 8-10 kts wind and go in even less. We'll see.

The Halos are 2nd gen. bows but that said are unlikely to be the second coming if you get my drift, and still will not have light capability of a BIG C (or foil but lets not go there) I don't believe. Again, we'll see but there seems to be reason why no one makes a big bow (>16m) and its not because they don't need to- its because the inherent design prevents them from doing so.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:05 PM
PrayFaWind27 PrayFaWind27 is offline
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I guess youíre right Balloon B any kite boarding is better than none, but
the way the weathers been looking we all going to be getting green thumbs
;-) and I think youíre right bout them not being able to make anything
Bigger than a 16m Bow. Why donít all of just chip in and just get that
50m Naish kite ;-) ;-)
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:31 PM
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this thread is going to go on for long if the wind doesn't pick up a bit.......

I just wanted to say (again) that it's up to the single rider, someone might like foil, some C shape and others BOW. I like driving manual, you might like driving automatic and somebody else likes semi-automatic. I'm sure all of them have pros and cons....

Personally I feel that I'm still driving a semi-manual-automatic car......and trying to make up my bloody mind !!!!

PS: I left my cell with my Mom so if you ever call....be nice to her and say something in italian !!!
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:45 PM
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Ah, I forgot !! Shuman when I say that C kites appear to jump higher I refer to the way how a C kite "yanks" you up in the air compare to the BOW that "pulls" you up in the air. And again maybe it's just my sensation....I must admid that it's hard to judge here, maybe next time we should measure. Anybody has one of those high crossbar that they use in pole jumping ???? Jokes aside why don't we take advantage of this nice weather and built some slider ???
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:30 PM
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Default don't be afraid to spend the money mateo

I know that you are still tawn about the cb and sb but dude it is a supperior kite.
I have taught total bigginers and had them going up wind on the first day on those kites.
you had one of the first goes on marks kite and eye witness say they have never seen you jump higher before than on that 16m cb.
now the other thing is they only make the cb and sb upto a 16m, there is a reason for that they don't need to make a 21m cb because the kite is rad in light winds realaunches in 8 miles ph I have riden my 16m in 20kts (not by choice) it is a rad kite in gusts and I think turns prity good.
F#ck the c kites I am selling all mine dirt cheap because these flat kites are the future of kiteboarding.
so thats my opinion sorrry about the spelling.
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default balloonblokes first flat kite airush halo is it good or not?

ballonboy bites the bullet and buys a flat kite (not from me )
anyways kite looks good 10m halo turns like a moskito.
It looked like it had some control isues though.
and mabe airush needs to do a ark stabelizer on it it seemed to bellow under load in gusts.
it looks kind of like best hellfish meets the cabrnha cross-bow with out the cross-bow bar system.
i did not ride this kite I was having to much fun riding my crossbow 16m in 18 to 20kts .
above are my observations on the halo.
anyways any1 eles want to add there 5c on the halo?
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:35 AM
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And you were riding sans helmet- whats with that?? :shock:

It was a pretty good first ride without tuning. But don't worry I'm still keeping some C's around.

I think the back lines were too slack- that, and/or I was sheeting out too much unnecessarily. It felt fine though. It looked good when Roger and Matteo (better riders) were aboard. Must be me- I suk.
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Old 12-28-2005, 08:27 PM
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Default dave was rippen

I was amazed at the turning speed of that kite.
you where rippen but you prob weigh a bit more than mateo and roger.
anyways good kite dave try it out tomorrow.
blue hill was barly ridable today.
SW wind tomorrow 10 to 20 NOAA is saying 17kts
coral harbor here we come.
see you guys out there I will leave a weather report onmy phone when I get out there in the morning.
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