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Kiter's Elbow
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FKA, Inc. transcribed by: Rick Iossi Last edited by ricki; 11-12-2007 at 08:05 AM. |
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Nice article, particularly on the conditioning exercises! Thanks for putting it together. Some more info appears below:
Some other things that can help in addition to warming up and down for sessions include trimming kites for lower bar pressure. This often means trimming on the pigtails in the middle area or closer to the end of the pigtails. If this leaves you without enough power, rig a larger kite or sit this one out. Using the proper sized bar for a given kite can also help. IF your kite has a good stopper system consider using this to ease the load when well offshore in steady wind when not setting up for jumps or tricks. Using kites with known lower bar pressures and smaller kites can help as well. One thing that I have found helps with irritation like this are ice massages (although not nearly as well as avoidance in the first place!). Freeze a styrofoam cup of water, peel a 1/2 inch or so off the bottom exposing a lump of ice. Press this lightly into the irritated area with circular motions. You can also buy plastic cups for this purpose: http://www.chirocity.com/index.asp?P...OD&ProdID=1272 More kiteboarding ideas on dealing with kiters elbow appear at: http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2315961 http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2315982 __________________
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I have had this problem since I started kiting 8 years ago. I tried everything including accupuncture, meds, and exercises.
The only thing that worked for me were the tennis elbow braces. You can get them at Wlagreens or Walmart for about $5 each. They are basically just 2 inch wide straps with velcro. I used them every time I kited or was working. After a couple months my elbows were back to 100%. It takes the pressure off of the elbow joint and causes your forearm to build up mass and strength. Now if I ever feel the pain beginning I immediately start wearing them again and they never get to the point of intense pain. Jay |
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Very interesting write-up. I have the same elbow pains, but I attributed it to years of weightlifting. I didn't know it was a fairly common condition among kiters. I'll have to keep those elbow braces in mind Jay. Good info gents!...
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Tennis elbow its all in the fork
Kiteheads as a kiter with an extensive background in windsurfing, which at the Olympic level is all about (holding on to the boom and pumping your ass off combined with top level aerobic fitness and pain management) i.e. managing your aerobic threshold by pumping just to the point that you do not lose your grip; I discovered that the training, physio therapy, massage, working out, chiropractic, yoga sessions (2 hours every morning) and on the water training all helped but the fastest way to reduce inflamation in the body is to control the fork!
You are what you eat. If you eat alkaline dominant food and stay away from food that leaves an acid residue, you get an instant drop in inflammation in the body which is noticeable pretty soon after eating. We can all relate to what if feels like to get severely dehydrated ( your body starts to feel like it is on fire- which is it becoming severely acidic at a cellular level) or to eat something that makes you get acid indigestion but we do this more or less every time we choose what to eat for a meal. OK so the question is what are alkaline foods. Well sorry to say but the only real alkaline foods are green leafy vegetables. Any kind of spouts are extremely alkaline, Lettuce, kale, chard, bok choy, parcley, dandelion, cilantro, etc. or anything having a green leaf. Fruits are kind of neutral and grains are acidic. http://www.essense-of-life.com/info/foodchart.htm this is the first thing that came up when i googled alkaline food. www.sunfood.com sells a powerful superfood powder called "Natures First Food" that can be mixed into your morning orange juice. Its made with whole Leaf barley grass, whole leaf wheat grass, nettle leaf, horsetail, alfalfa leaf juice, dandelion leaf juice, kamut grass juice, barley grass juice, oat grass juice, broccoli juice, kale juice, spinach juice, parsley juice, burdock root, nopal cactus, ginger, amla berry. * Algaes: spirulina*, broken-cell-wall chlorella**. * Wildcrafted aquatic vegetables: Icelandic kelp, Nova Scotia dulse. (seaweeds) And all the ingredients are organic. SO if you loaded yourself up with something like this every day besides trying to eat less processed and cooked foods you would see a pretty fast reduction in the inflamation in oyur elbows or any joint capsule for that matter. I can feel a difference from any meal I eat (I am 100% vegetarian, eat exclusively organic produce when I can, some dairy products preferably not pasturized, and 90% raw foodist) I gravitated to this type of lifestyle as I was doing a lot of research on diet, longevity, maximum performance and recovery in sports and this is where I ended up. My changes in my diet allowed me to compete at an olympic level well into my late 30's. Also a great product that is coming from the tampa area is www.livingfuel.com I have all of the athletes that I coach on it and they all love it! It is the worlds strongest antioxidant superfood product you can eat. Antioxidants also help reduce free radical damage which is a major way to kkep the body more alkaline. Living Fuel mixed with some fruit and blended up makes the perfect sports drink to take before, durrig and after kiting. Now most americans eat what is called the standard American Diet (SAD) which is loaded with too much polluted and sick animal products and genetically modified grains in the form of corn, wheat, soy and canola oil. And we wonder why everyone is sick, fat and not out kiteboarding with us. Just do a google on raw food, alkaline foods, eating to heal, eating to heal cancer,etc. and you will see that the trend is just what i found and wrote about up above. A 12 year old does not have kiters elbow (well some are getting it now) as his body is still quite alkaline. As we age we become more polluted, i.e. acidic. (old age is brought on by dehydration and getting loaded up with pesticides, parasites, homogenized (cooked till dead) dairy from cows fed genetically engineered (read frankenstein foods) trans fats, sodas, alcohol, chemicals, colorants, artificial flavors, preservatives which are all toxic and acidic to any living being. And the majority of this food is grown with artificial fertilizers and the soil is so weak in nutrients that the plants have no immune system and pesticides have to be sprayed all over the crops just to get it to grow. SO if we cleanup our diet the body will heal faster, recover faster, heal deeper and the inflammation will reduce to a manageble level and at that point all of the modalities mentioned above will have more of a positive impact. And drink "spring water" like volvic, figi water, evian and (not tap water ever) as spring water is wetter and more alkaline as well. Warm winds and a discerning fork to you all. |
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ummmm yeah... I'm still going with stone crab claws (lot's of lemon), a bit of grilled swordfish, a few 911 hot wings from hooters (naked), and some beers to wash it all down. Might even take a hit of the greens, but only if my mouth isn't burning too much.
I'm am the anti-weight to Gebi's positive life force! Long live the Dark Sith, Neil H. "I am your father". Kent |
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drinking bicarbonate water drastically reduces colon cancer in mice that are treated with carcinogens compared to those that are just given regular or acidic water
I don't think I'm going on a bicarb diet tho'
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Thanks for the input Gebi. I wasn't aware of the dietary tie in to this. I don't have kiters elbow, these days fortunately though at times in the past. Seems my wrists have decided to act up over the last couple of weeks with all this wind.
You can't argue with results. Gebi, like Kent was on the Olympic Windsurfing Team for sometime. Gebi still travels all over the world coaching Olympic competitors. Gebi and Kent, despite his avowed beer and spicey Hooter diet (that would hurt if one got caught in your eye!?), came in first to Bimini in the race from Ft. Lauderdale in 2005. http://fksa.org/showthread.php?t=542 http://fksa.org/showthread.php?t=878 Gebi also saved some floundered boaters off Ft. Pierce Inlet a while back, more at: http://fksa.org/showthread.php?t=1448 So, whatever Gebi uses to improve performance on the water, quite a lot I imagine, it seems to work very well.
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Kent, at least the lemon will add to the alkalinity..... as will all the water you get up yer arse from kiting too overpowered.
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I think Gebi has the diet advice spot on.
I first start reading about the subject of acidity in the diet when advised to do so from a Dr. friend. Whenever I change my diet and make attempts at making it more alkaline, I can notice obvious changes in my system. Within a few weeks I usually lose weight (a recognized effect of eating properly) and my muscles feel much better, leading to increased energy and better endurance. I am 40 now, so the effects are more noticeable. When you are young, your body deals with anything and everything better, making improvements in health less noticeable, imo. The masking effect of youth is gone now though, so the effects are more obvious to me. Thing is, being a sponsored Wendy's rider, it's hard to follow the diet. :???: I am going to tell Dave (Thomas) to shove it today and go back to eating better. Thanks for posting the article(s). |
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