actually i wasnt refering to the fifth line for depower, the kites have the curved wingtips and give plenty of depower, ive used my 16m in about 18 and my 12m in about 25 and havent even had to pull the depower strap yet, they have the best range of almost any ckite... just check the reviews
if my foot wasnt cut i could have found out what the top end was this past week.. oh well