yeah , U will find anything much over 20M will just pull you downwind unless you ride it very efficiently, i.e. extend your arms so that you are balanced at almost being depowered. that's the secret to upwind on huge kites.
Bryan , I have a sneaky suspiscion that your 12m waroo is closer in size to a 14m kite. you should try laying them on top of each other and see.
Yeah it rocked at BS today , hopefully tomm. we get more of the same
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