I've been asked to move this to the Chill Zone and lock it. Done.

We won't agree over everything, that is given. One thing we need to try to do is to stick together and work out constructive compromises. Non-kiters if they have issues with us, as few as we are, will have little trouble steamrolling over us if we are divided and arguing harshly among ourselves.

Show reasonable respect and restraint and try to work it out, one on one if feasible. On here if not, but govern what you do with respect and restraint to preserve credibility and perception of a credible intent.

Besides which, you guys on the west coast have ALL THE WIND AGAIN! Enjoy some water time over there.