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<jason 01-28-2008 08:52 PM

Im not that tall 5'10 but im heavy imo 220lbs yikes...

But this is really good news, when im able to ride upwind in both directions on this board ill be all set on better suited board...just gotta find out what that might be...?

Skyway Scott 01-28-2008 09:55 PM

So many good options these days. Don't let yourself feel like you have to nail "the" perfect board. No such thing. There might be a best bang for buck, but no perfect board.
Thankfully, most boards are pretty good these days. I can't think of too many outright losers, if any.
I would ask a couple of the guys in your size range what they are on and take it from there.

Yeah, if you are making that thing work in 20 or less on a 13m kite, you are a fricking natural at this, trust me. It's going to make kiting ten times more enjoyable once you nail the right sized board, that's no exaggeration.
The kite is one thing, but too small a board ruins the whole gig, imo.
Especially as a new rider. You'll see. :-D

toby wilson 01-28-2008 11:32 PM

Dude, hit up Bayflite and see if he has any more Ocean Rodeo Mako 150's left in stock or on order. The board ROCKS for downwinders and was PERFECT during the test run two Sundays ago. It is a TT but has 18MM of concave and is very narrow with only 2 fins, one in the middle on each end of the board. The 150 Mako just plain kicks @$$ in waves and chop, I don't think I'll ever ride anything else when I am going for speed on a downwinder with plenty of wind. I also have the wakestyle Mako 134 but it just isn't quite as nice in the waves, is great in flat water and in chop though.

Just my opinion...

Now for an every day board there are plenty of options as Scott said. I ride a Skywalker 131 Dimitri Pro and a Skywalker Lightwind Dimitri Pro when in light wind. Yes, I am affiliated with Dimitri and Skywalker so take that for what it is worth but they are nice boards for the money and I don't have anything in stock so I have nothing to gain by recommending them.

You are more than welcome to demo any of my boards though before you decide what is right for you. I only posted this because I am 6'6" tall and 230-250 lbs depending on what the wind has been doing lately so I feel your pain when it comes to being a bigger guy and finding the right gear for you...but there are other big guys who like other gear, ask around and try before you buy my friend...

Tom Stock 01-29-2008 12:56 AM

Sorry should have been more specific...

Riding in chop and slipping out, my guess is that you are riding a stiff board. Stiff boards are very fast in flat water and will pop for unhooked tricks like a springboard... but in the chop you can easily start "skipping" from wave tip to wave tip (like a shell skips across the surface of a lake when you throw it jut right)... this means your fins are only in the water briefly and if you are edging, you are going to slip out and fall.

I'm familiar with this because at 195lbs I ride a lot of stiff boards for that extra pop.

The only option here is SLOW DOWN. How? Dig the board hard upwind, drag your butt like a dog with a dirty rear (this one is considered poor style but we all do it when we have to), or stand up and haul straight down wind at your kite.

Btw, if you just bear off a little you will speed up, if but if you go straight at your kite you will slow down as the kite stalls.

Riding in chop takes technique no matter what board you are on but generally softer tips or a LOT of concave (maco) will help considerably but at some cost... soft tips (usually) reduce pop, and lots of concave makes it hard to release the edge and butter slide. There are of course compromises by making the board really stiff in the middle and soft at the very end of the tips for both pop and flex (the flexifoil and nobile are this sort of design... and it's a good one).

Hope this helps.

<jason 01-29-2008 06:28 AM

What u guys are saying makes a lot of sense.. It is kinda strange that for 2007 rrd would make a board with this shape...but one of the selling points was the "ribbed" tips for a flex transition..I copied and pasted this below..
Maybe one of u could ride it and tell me what u think..thanks guys...

"Quote"
*Fast and manouverable, any time you jump on the BS3 you feel that this has always been you board.. Easily adaptable to a great variety of use and especially designed to perform well in any type of conditions. Comfortable, it seems that with this board you ride on foam, tracking clear lines upwind.. Best board to learn how to jump and improve in safety. ...
Design features:
The new Rib tips on the deck are a special feature of the 2007 kiteboards. They create a progressive stiffer/softer transition from the middle board towards the tips and vice-versa.

This technology combined with the ABS sidewalls improves strength to side impacts.

The new dual ergo heel CARBON pre-bent pads are delivered with each board allowing a perfect match of footstrap and pad placement when changing position on the deck.


BS3 140x38


Dimensions: 140 x 38 Fin Box: Pins
Fin: 4 x KF5 Technology: PUT
http://www.hawaiianwatersports.com/i...oducts/639.gif

inferno 01-29-2008 07:14 AM

thats way to small of a board for your size... im 210 and i dont even use that small of a board as my high wind board.....

BigR 01-29-2008 07:27 AM

I wouldn't use that board under 20kts and I'm 200#'s+


my high wind board 133x39
my low wind board 132x46

obviously width and rocker and shape and stiffness has alot to do with it rather than length

Skyway Scott 01-29-2008 07:59 AM

All the big guys are saying the same thing.

A wider board is going to make more difference than you would believe in this scenario. That board is a great board, it's just not the right one for you and your situation.

Tom Stock 01-29-2008 08:34 AM

"BS" is right. lol. At least the name is appropriate.

<jason 01-29-2008 08:48 AM

come on now....
dont make me feel bad... :rolleyes:
wish i would have known....gonna have to make this board work for quite some time...
thanks for your imput.... :)


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