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Skyway Scott 08-28-2007 09:14 AM

One reason I brought up the example (of the sign) is that I would guess very shortly the "rules/suggestions/random thoughts" of the sign are going to be need to be agreed upon.
That's the very first step in getting a sign ready is it's printing, right?

I know we are trying to take baby steps, but the sign in itself presents the problem of needing a list that is complete, because I don't think we will be able to add one rule per week to it. Or maybe we could? Jayson? Wood... carving... IDK.

C. Moore 08-28-2007 09:44 AM

Since Randy is out at the Skyway 99% of the time, we could ask him to post the sign. It could be a vinyl sign that would be displayed on the side of his camper or between two pvc post.

Vinyl signs are low cost, easily made and can roll up nicely. They are made with UV protection so they won't fade after one season.

Randy might not go for this since it might look like he has liability if something goes wrong.

Just a thought.

popeye 08-28-2007 09:52 AM

He already has a best pro kiteboarding center lessons sign and best flags so I can't see it being much different...plus he's been placing orange cones around the launch area at backside. The sign sounds like a good idea.

inferno 08-28-2007 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C. Moore (Post 22421)
Since Randy is out at the Skyway 99% of the time, we could ask him to post the sign. It could be a vinyl sign that would be displayed on the side of his camper or between two pvc post.

Vinyl signs are low cost, easily made and can roll up nicely. They are made with UV protection so they won't fade after one season.

Randy might not go for this since it might look like he has liability if something goes wrong.

Just a thought.

not i good idea, from a newbie or a visting kiters point of view, it would look like the rules were created by him only and not as enforced by everyone, definately need a stand alone sign, it it makes the rules seem more as a universal opinion of all the local riders, not just the guy whos vehicle it s on

popeye 08-28-2007 10:21 AM

Good point.

bryanleighty 08-28-2007 10:27 AM

again, I think these are all valid points.. cool that everyone is throwing ideas and scenarios into the pot. Its a complicated matter, no doubt, with tons of possible answers.. but the fact is that if we dont self regulate now, someone will do it for us.

take a look at this and tell me you'd like to have to abide by this crap:
http://www.miamikiteboarding.com/NewRulesforCrandon.htm

Its about developing safe habits from the very beginning and *hoping* those stick.

Sign should be as simple and thorough:

I think there are 3 major points..

1. launch area clear
2. landing and launching kites safely
3. riding safely

something like....(Please edit/add/delete as you feel necessary..)

Keep Launch Areas Clear -
--Park away from beach
--Keep Bar and Lines wrapped on all beached kites

Launch and Land Kites Safely -
--Assist incoming riders land their kites
--Give right-of-way to incoming riders
--Only allow experienced riders launch kites
--Launch and clear the beach as quickly as possible
--Keep a safe distance from the beach on incoming tacks

Ride Safely -
--Helmet and flotation devices recommended for all riders
--Always give right of way to other riders
--Do not perform stunts near the beach line

popeye 08-28-2007 10:39 AM

Some minor suggestions (in italics):



Kite at your own risk and only with proper training.

Keep Launch Areas Clear -
--Park away from beach
--Secure your kite and lines when not riding.

Launch and Land Kites Safely -
--Assist incoming riders land their kites
--Give right-of-way to launching or landing riders
--Only allow experienced riders launch kites
--Launch and clear the beach as quickly as possible
--Stay 200' from shore while riding.

Ride Safely -
--Helmet and flotation devices recommended for all riders
--Always obey right of way rules for kiting
--Do not perform or land tricks within 200' of shore.



200' is only about 2 kite line lengths ... the standard safety distance for kiting if I recall correctly.

C. Moore 08-28-2007 10:46 AM

Don't forget the obvious.

Kite leashes are required!

popeye 08-28-2007 11:03 AM

Oh yeah DUH!

Kite at your own risk and only with proper training.

Keep Launch Areas Clear -
--Park away from beach
--Secure your kite and lines when not riding.
--Always use a kite leash

Launch and Land Kites Safely -
--Stay clear of others on the beach.
--Assist incoming riders land their kites
--Give right-of-way to launching or landing riders
--Only allow experienced riders launch kites
--Launch and clear the beach as quickly as possible
--Stay 200' from shore while riding.

Ride Safely -
--Helmet and flotation devices recommended for all riders
--Always obey right of way rules for kiting
--Do not perform or land tricks within 200' of shore.

Seem reasonable? Seems to me we should just adopt the sign I posted as picture of earlier in the thread.

amber 08-28-2007 11:09 AM

familiarize yourself with the launch area and potential hazards BEFORE launching


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