Not a fair comparison at all...........


The waroos do not come with bars in your example and they also do not come with one pump system

lets be fair.

'08 Nemi e-z pump 12m + bar/ lines = $1398
'08 Switchblade III 12m + bar/ lines = $1579
difference = $181

you can't compare waroos with no bar/lines or no e-z pump to switchblades complete with bar/ lines.


those prices are straight from manufacturer website.

http://www.neilprydemaui.com/items.php?id=528

http://www.bestkiteboarding.com/08-NemesisHPEZ

whats the big myth?

No, I included one bar and one set of lines. I do not need THREE bars for a quiver. Also, I don't like Hp's,and I hate one pump it sucks so I'd like to have the option to leave it out.

12M SB3+BAR: 1579
13M WAROO+BAR: 1148
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1579
1148
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$431 cheaper (before taxes) and it's one size bigger. Buy it without the bar and save another $300 for a total of $731.

$731 is a lot of money in my book.

youre not going to win this one raul :)

LOL!!!!!!


if thats the way you wanna play it then the true calculations are:

$1180 for the SBIII without bar
but since I hate single point inflation system subtract another $250
( since I can use my current bar and have no need for one pump )


price SBIII = $930 w/o bar or single point inflation
price waroo = $731


LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Where can I order an SB3 without bar and one pump? Is that possible? :D You are still $200 over lol! Do some "new age" math! If $200 is missing from your wallet was it ever really there?

I'm really just playing with Raul... we are good friends. I just had to play when he said $150 difference.

apples to oranges........

Are we really going to do this, again?

My gripe isn't about the money issue, anyway.
If someone doesn't care or is too lazy to comparison shop, that's their problem and they can part with their money. What do I care?

My gripe is about a local shop guy claiming the Waroos are inferior kites and that he wouldn't ever teach again, if it were on waroos. In addition, statements were made that new riders won't progress as quickly on them as on Cabrinhas. What a load of crap. The statements were heavily bias and way off base. They were made in response to a Best thread... basically hijacked. It was a joke.


I still can't help but suspect that not having a Best account heavily tainted your statements against Best, Steve. If not, only ignorance is to blame.

The Best thread got real ugly and I wish I could learn to control my responses to bias and misinformation better. I am trying. I got pissed and apologize for the "tone" I had. I don't apologize for standing up to bias and misinformation.

To show that it is hardly personal or aimed at WSW, but more aimed toward the ridiculousness of the statements, here is a thread from KF.
I would focus solely on what ToastSyn and myself say.
At the time, Toast worked for EXTREME KITES and is still an EK rider.

Toast posts on page 1 and then page 3 (skip 2). Then I respond. It got heated. I am not proud of it, but it proves it's not about you Steve.
It's not even about me riding the waroo. It's about misinformation and bias.

http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.p...a52247abb27235

But oranges are more expensive!

i think you are both correct..

obviously if you are talking a one-pump vs a non-one pump its apples and oranges

think the HP vs SB is the "better" comparison..

Tho, I am with Tom in regards to what I want with a kite and when I see a price for a Cab or a SS it kinda freaks me out. I just bought 2 new kites (kite only, no bar) for less than 1 SB complete.

Its all about what you want in a kite and what your budget is.

also..I could have bought 4 used 2007 waroos for the price i paid for 2 new.

HP has Cuben fiber. That stuff is expensive. :rolleyes:
This money argument isn't worth it, imo.

http://most-expensive.net/