i see your point...
maybe a smaller sign w/o the list of rules.. just the "intermediate and advanced riders only" and details on the harness clip colors, riders are responsible for their gear ..etc.

something to discuss..

would be less costly. easier to mount.. easier to replace if needed.

I think it's just the right length. If someone gets in front of it, it will only take 2 minutes to read.

Also, the sign (to me) summarizes what we have all agreed upon and is sort of a symbol of "agreements". Bystanders will probably read it as much as anyone and it will probably serve to represent our good intentions to them as much as reveal to other kiters our "rules".

In addition, as stated, it will probably end up on here, and in other places for others to view.
The sign is about as long, right now, as those at most pools or hot tubs.

Well, except this hot tub's sign, maybe.

how about this condensed version.
to the point.

i like it.

I personally think the sign as shown on page 1 of this thread is as good as it gets. :) The condensed version is so short, I don't see the point beyond pointing out newbies, and then it becomes a "newbie-centric" sign. Unsafe rider behavior isn't defined on the condensed sign.
On the other sign you focussed in on jumping close and riding close to shore.
Is it that we don't want to list those ideas on a sign?

I only know me. If I pulled up to Jupiter or St. Augustine... etc. and I saw a sign, I would read it for sure. I would actually feel better seeing a sign and being able to read about the local expectations. Obviously, if most riders were breaking most of the rules on the sign, I would probably just do what I wanted. If they were following them though, so would I.
That's just me though. Some won't care about the local "rules" and disregard a sign.

i agree w/ you scott.. when i was in HR they have a sign that is probably 8 foot wide at the event site.. it has a large map and is very detailed about where you can and cannot launch and land. its the least a new rider to a new area can do to get the low-down on the local spot.

for locals, i am sure everyone will take a read through it...

i definitely dont want the first sign to be the only option.. anyone else w/ other topics to add or lines to delete, please step forward. this is not my project.. but something that we should try to get through before the winds come in.

i know that as soon as the winds are here, the last thing I want to do is sit around and type crap out on this forum.

ugh.
:)

There have been so many pages over the last week on safety and signs and bands that I may have missed this, but has anyone talked to a county official about mounting the sign? Both sides of the skyway?

I took lessons from Randy at the skyway a while back, and have never riden there since, but isn't there a trash can bolted down near the launch area at BS? That might be a good place to mount it...

agreeing on sign - phase one.

getting sign(s) made - phase two

getting signs mounted - phase three..

there has been some talk about phase 2 and 3.. but not too much.

i do know that for the skyway we are looking for minimal to zero involvement w/ officials if possible. might not be possible tho..

OMG

This thread is still wandering around after so long?

Are we re-inventing the wheel?

Or building a bridge? Or a Space Shuttle?

http://www.fksa.org/showthread.php?t=3038