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bryanleighty 01-28-2008 01:22 PM

13 2008 Waroo
This thread is a response for those that wanted a comparison on my new 13m waroo compared to my 12m 2006 waroo.. (please keep any replies on topic.. thanks)

FINALLY got to ride my new 13m waroo yesterday.. if only for an hour in mediocre conditions at the skyway. It did hit for about 10 minutes where I got to get a feel for the power this thing has got. Holy cow.

I did not get a chance to jump much and work out the timing .. its quite a bit faster than my old 12m and I sent it too far the few times I jumped.. solid kite.

rode it A/C then A/A when the winds lightened up. really didnt notice much of a difference.. wind was on light side so I need to revist.

One thing I can say for certain is that it loops FAST.. and not just quick.. I mean FAST.. even in the light winds I was able to do a small 2 to 3 foot jump and do a kiteloop w/ the kite completing the loop and heading back up before I hit the water.. 3 times back to back.. same results.. SOLID power thru the loop... no fluttering on the way up.. no ripple in the canopy...

the 12m would loop and on its way up start to deform a bit.. canopy would flutter and power would be gone.. often the speed you were able to generate from the bulk of the loop was the only thing that would keep your momentum going when you hit the water to glide out of it. The kite's power was typically gone and you had to bring the kite back down quickly to get back going..

not with this kite.. even in the light winds it retained that constant power/pull thru the loop..

thinking about it.. i am kinda freaking out about looping this thing w/ some solid wind.. I know its going to rip me across the sky and i'll land with screaming speed.

another main thing to note is that the the depower is no where near as much as the 2006 waroo. even at full push out of the bar there was still power in the kite.. definitely something to think about when the winds pick up.. i didnt adjust the depower strap due to the light winds.. but there's definitely a big difference compared to the 2006 massive depower.

construction is amazing. I dont like the colored LE.. already dirty with only 2 uses. I prefer black LE.. oh well..

bryanleighty 01-30-2008 09:12 AM

got to ride the 13m yesterday in much better conditions at EB.


boosts big, floaty, controlled.. very predictable.. quick to move across the window and solid in the air.. I am very very happy w/ this kite.

it loops too fast. in more powered conditions, even doing my beginners loops (small jump then loop at apex) it finishes the loop before I have time to react and is already beginning a second loop before I hit the water..

scott rode it for a while and did some unhooked jumps, raleys and whatnots.. kite looked solid and he seemed to be having a good time.. probably a bit overpowered for his size and the conditions..

my 12m 2006 kite has been my bread n butter ride for a couple years.. this kite completely replaces it in terms of fun and boosting and it also adds a huge amount of power and kite speed.. for my size its going to be my go-to kite for nearly all of our standard conditions..

fun fun fun!

<jason 01-30-2008 09:30 AM

hey whats your approx weight....?
what setting did you have the kite on..?
i love my 13... man that kite is sick awesome...imo
now i just need a wider board to go along w/it...:D

bryanleighty 01-30-2008 09:47 AM

i float around the 195 to 205 mark.. (lost almost 10lbs when I was sick last week!! but I think I've gained it back)

I had it set A/C then A/A and now its set A/B ..

to be completely honest.. I didnt notice a single difference.. bar pressure seemed to be consistent thru all settings...

I did rig it on the 4th knot up thinking that if i needed the extra juice it would be there.. I didnt need it.. i rode for about 20 minutes and then set it on the 3rd knot (center) .. i like to be able to ride with very minimal depower so that I have a lot left on my strap if the winds kick up too much. I guess it also might be from riding the 2006 waroo so much as you really dont want to ride those depowered.. thats when they tend to deform and possibilities of inversion go up.

2008 kite is much less prone for inversion and it really keeps its shape even under a full depower.. I can probably use the depower more actively with this kite.

<jason 01-30-2008 10:30 AM

I have mine set to ab and i think it rode it last on the fourth knot up...from what people said it was about 18 to 23kts at nb on sunday... and that was purr-fect...did not need it any faster, thats for sure.
im a couple pounds more than u ..but still seems this kite wil work good for most conditions...:D
hope we can ride this weekend... wonder if this front will give us anything:confused:

Tom Stock 01-30-2008 01:26 PM

Nice thanks for the review. I have the 08 9M and am planning to buy the 13M to replace both my 12M and 16M 2006 waroos.

Finally, a 2 kite quiver.

Really the only similarity between the 2008 waroo and the 2006/2007 waroos is the name.

bryanleighty 01-30-2008 01:38 PM

on Sunday the wind was pretty light when I rode the 13m..
Dan was out on his 16m waroo.. He was on his skywalker lightwind board.. i was on the skywalker 130x40.. i could keep w/ the wind but not go upwind well.. he was able to go upwind ..

i was going to switch to my lightwind 140X49 board when the wind died completely and we both put our kites down.

earlier i was riding the 13m when others were riding their 15 and 16m kites.. its got a lot of power for its size..

I also know you are looking to lose some weight.. i'd think that if I was in the 180lb range the 13m would completely replace my 16m waroo. As it stands at 200lbs I will need to keep my 16m in the car for those really light days.

Tom Stock 01-30-2008 02:53 PM

Yeah, I'm down to 179, and I don't usually want to ride unless it's 15+ so a 13 should work no problem.

I'm kinda over just cruising back and forth in 11mph these days ...

Skyway Scott 01-30-2008 03:29 PM

It seems like most companies are getting quite a bit of power (efficiency might be better) from their 13/14m kites these days. I can easily be powered on most brand's 13m kites (at my size) in 13 knots on a "small" board. So, the 13m Waroo isn't in a class of it's own in that regard.
I would go so far as to say if I wasn't totally powered up on a brand's 13/14m in 15 knots, I would consider it a p.o.s.

On the other hand, because I can just cruise around and sight-see on a Glide (or similar light wind board) on almost any SLE between 9m to 17m in solid 10 knots, I don't see the point in getting a BIG kite, when almost any kite will do if just cruising on a good LWB.

Since all I can do in ten knots is cruise around, putting up a bigger kite than what I am pretty powered up on in 13-15 knots doesn't make much sense to me anymore. Pretty sure you and Tom are saying almost the same thing (that a big kite, if you have a light wind board, isn't all that necessary anymore). Although Tom isn't big on riding in sub 15, I will a lot if it's nice outside.

Funny, 'cuz 4 years ago I had a 20m RRD. 20m !! lol.
I didn't have the Glide yet, though.

Tom Stock 01-30-2008 10:04 PM

I had a 21M nemesis.

F'in pos.

I will never again ride a kite bigger than a 14m.

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