hey man.. i do not want to be calling you out on this, but this is really not the attitude that we should be having..

accidents are by definition events that occur without warning, by mistake, etc. you are as prone to this happening as anyone else and dont ever think you are not. equipment failure, unexpected weather changes, injury.. you cant say any and all of this cannot occur..it does and it will..

with experience you greatly lessen the chances for these to occur by recognizing potential problems before they occur. BUT .. look at the number of serious injuries .. most all are experienced riders that got relaxed about safety and thought they could overcome situations where they should have been more cautious.

a new rider is just as dangerous as an experienced rider that thinks he/she is beyond getting caught in a bad situation..

look at the guy w/o a leash on saturday.. he is a great kiter.. his kite got away twice.. flew through the beach with children playing on it..

Can you imagine what could have happened if the bar had caught one of those kids???????

we would lose skyway for sure. absolutely and without question..

my plan is to do what i can to help and keep the beaches as safe as possible and be as responsible of a rider as i can be. i know you (and others) are doing the same.. just need to understand that no one is beyond an accident occuring.

i am not in favor of involving park officials or anything like that w/o some serious discussion by both sides of the table and a VERY clear understanding of what each side would be responsible for.

..........

simple....
if its blowing 25 from the east, we ride at EB

we all basically agree on that
:lol:

I realize I am not there anymore and I have stayed out of this thread (til now). To a large extent it is of less consequence to me now and I am more focussed on protecting areas around here now (pretty easy to do). I also realize how close to impossible consensus is, in some areas, anyway.

I don't know who that "great' kiter is mentioned above, but IMO, he is a crappy rider for jeopardizing your guys spot... twice in one day? whatta joke. Did anyone talk to him? Or is he so "great" he is somehow above the "common sense/courtesy" agreements that most of you indeed agree on (because they are so obvious and common sense oriented, such as use of a leash?)

Getting overly nervous about noobs and ignoring that particular situation (if that's what happened) is way off. I basically agree with Brian is my statement. I am curious how you guys intend to handle (if at all) the above, quoted scenario.

lassing baby.. lassing.

man
we cant even agree on that!!!!!!

Thats right!

If its blowing from the East Then the Skyway REALLY SUCKS!

Stay away from Skyway and goto lassing or EB instead on an easterly!

LOL! :lol:

Certification
 

Well I think it does not hurt at all to get a Certification card. I am a noob, but I want to fit in as much as possible. I have made some great friends and if I have to get a certification card to keep riding then I am in.

Hey Steve,
I was talking to Toby and he said that you could show me what I need to do to get my card. PM me when you get a chance.