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ricki
01-22-2008, 08:12 AM
Just wondering if any one has some good pics of the event? My Dad told me my lil' Bro won. But the 3 pics he had were not the best detail.

I'm not really into water sports or anything, but I'm sure my Brother will drag me out eventually. Until then I just signed on here hoping for pics and such of the event, and to try and understand this sport that he's into. (I'm more into wheeled sports)

Thanks in advance


Congratulations, amazing performance for a first win. He was up against some very experienced talent, high winds and good sized seas and still pulled it off. His time, 2 hr. 17 min. equates to an average speed of about 25 mph. To keep that up through gust cycles, zones of seas up to perhaps nine feet in isolated areas is quite an accomplishment. I took a quick look and other than some fuzzy video shot at the finish I don't seem to have any shots. I think there is likely lots of high quality video and stills shot by Dasher from the helicopter and others at the awards ceremony which I unfortunately had to miss. So, stay tuned, more good stuff to come.

Well done to everyone that came out for this great event! A huge thanks to Neil and troops for pulling it off one more time.

Whether you went the full distance or not, were just watching or came in hard and furious for the finish, what do you remember? There have to be some incredible stories out there, so let's hear 'em.

kent
01-22-2008, 08:20 AM
Neil,

thanks again for putting on a great event. you couldn't have asked for better conditions. i know that all of us truely appreciate your efforts and always look forward to attending future events. Thanks again Neil.

Kent

ricki
01-22-2008, 08:32 AM
I second that, Neil you are the man for conceiving and bringing these complex, unique events into being time and time again. THANK YOU!

OK, I was well up the coast cruising along on my 13 m near the zenith (sigh), dodging the odd big wave, shooting pictures and missed out on what was going on in the race further south. Gebi gave me an eye full on video of his radical experiences on the way down. Kent, what do you remember? Your gear let you down but I bet you have a great story.

kent
01-22-2008, 09:26 AM
Not much of a story from my side. I was very happy with my equipment selection (Crossbow3 10.5 and my 5'2 DC directional). My goal was to finish in the top 3 and not worse than 5th. I was sticking to my plan and riding pretty easy bouncing between 4th and 6th ususally. I was runing down the coast and currently riding in 5th with I went flying over the bars. I quickly got up and crashed again. I flipped my board over and noticed that my bottom had ripped off. I had earler repaired my board by adding to additional stringers, but I did the job incorrectly and didn't place an extra layer of glass over the stringers. I thought that my test from Saturday's race was sufficient, but apparantly not.

It was a disappointment for sure, but I was runing about as expected and had to bail out at the Deerfield Pier. It's funny, just as I was limping into the beach Gebi passed me. I'm sure that we would have finished at the hip again. I think that he was looking for a bit of revenge after Saturday's loss to me by about 10 seconds after 25 miles. I guess that I'll just have to live on that one until we get to Tampa. I can't wait to see you there.

ricki
01-22-2008, 10:23 AM
Tough break but then again that board did well in quite a few comps including Naples day before yesterday. The challenge goes on between Kent and Gebi, years in the running but still going real strong.

Stacey was also in both the Naples and Jupiter races like us, Stacey what do you remember from the run to Ft. Lauderdale?

kites4food
01-22-2008, 10:54 AM
Yeah, another good one, Neill.

The water start was MUCH better than the shore Chaos from the first Jup-Tiki race. It also made for a level playing field.

What I'm learning is that even with 60 miles and more than 2 hours to make up ground, you never have a moment to waste. As the group moves at over 20mph, when you look up after falling off the board, you feel like you just fell off a train that's heading off in the distance.

The other thing I'm learning is the old rabbit and turtle philosophy. I chose the fastest board I own, but not the most comfortable. When I needed to, I could shoot past someone. My GPS even showed a max speed of 42mph after outrunning one of those big swells. But the constant chatter and lack of board traction kept me from really keeping up those high speeds, and probably caused me to fall more than I should have. And then, all the people I had zipped past, just cruised comfortably by me in my down times. So, a comfortable steady pace on the right gear is definitely the way to go next time for me.

More than a few people hugged the shore for very long distances. That sucked because the shallower water definitely had its advantages. Did any lifeguards report anyone?

I saw one shark eating something on the surface, several Men-o-war (plural?), and took one jelly fish to the face.

Looking forward to more...races; not jellyfish.

MPR
01-22-2008, 11:17 AM
Thanks for the response. I look forward to seeing the pics.

We have a hard enough time staging cars for large events, I can't imagine the nightmare of almost 100 people dependent on wind and a non-stable surface all starting at the same time.

It had to be a site for sure!

neil xrated
01-22-2008, 11:41 AM
An amazing race for sure. Things I remember and heard:

Sean Reyngoudt, loosing his prospetic leg half way, body dragged after it and came in and put it back on to finish 23rd
Chan Anschuetz riding the whole way strapless and finishing 20th with no wax left on his board.
Billy Parker finishing 3rd on a broken board.
Hamish Macdonald kept coming to the beach, on his surboard, to re-inflate his leading edge by mouth until Gary Menk giving him his kite at the check point to finish.

It was an amazing sight to see that many kiters leaving Jupiter in those conditions followed by the helicopter with Paul and Dasher hanging out the side.
1st rider coming in 10 mins faster than last years winner Andy Hurdman.
At 2.14 pm marking off the last person from my list having accounted for all 62 people, then having a beer.

Cheers all Neil

kent
01-22-2008, 12:08 PM
Ken,

I didn't even finish, but I totally agree with your comments about riding on the shore. Many racers clearly rode the shore for tens of miles at a time, including before and after the check point. Independent of wining or losing the race, this clearly puts us at risk for having future events. I do know that riders mentioned the fact that many people rode on the beach the entire way. The advantage was huge in more ways than one. Rules actually make events more fun as long as everyone follows them.

i don't think that the lifeguards really knew much about the race. At Deerfield, the head guy didn't know anything. It is best to police these events just like any other sailing event. It is policed by the riders. In this case a few riders did report indiscressions as requested by race management, but I'm not sure if anything happened. I was riding with big Damien T. on the outside for quite some time, it was bouncy and slow as hell. I'm sure that he would have liked to ride the flats on the inside with that 14 meter of his! In short, if you want rules taken seriously, enforce them, if not, let them run.

The DVD will surely be interesting... it's going to need some careful editing to take out the lifeguard stands, buoys, and add another 80 yards of water. ha ha ha!!!

At any rate it was a great event, but probably needs to get tightened up a bit. Congrats to all and see you in Tampa.

Kent

neil xrated
01-22-2008, 01:05 PM
I also totally agree with the swim area rule. The last thing we want is to turn a very positive thing into something negative and for sure I do not want to play a part in any closing of beaches.
I did not get any calls from life guards and they all had my cell phone #. But I did hear a couple of complaints about people riding in swim areas by other riders. I did not get any actual names but did hear some of the top few riders may have gone in but also heard from some of the later part of the top few that no one ahead of them went in.
We will have to find a way of clearing this up for next year, maybe no one is allowed in the break the entire way after the start.

ricki
01-22-2008, 01:34 PM
Hey Ken,

Was it a Portuguese that hit you? Did you have any reaction other than "damn that hurts!" I am recalling what you went through on the way to Bimini. Also, 42 mph before a wave, yow that is cooking. Did you splat at the end or ride it out?

Hey Neil, how many times did Hamish beach to pump up by mouth? I recall doing the leading edge of 23 m once on the beach in Boca that had me seeing stars. Did a 5 m once in major surf the day after a hurricane just to get into shore, amusing stuff. Getting in successfully and landing with a saggy unruly kite in yesterday's high winds and surf, mouth inflating a kite until you're dizzy repeatedly is almost beyond belief.

Kent what sort of board speed could you maintain well offshore on your 10 m? I know conditions were highly variable with smooth corridors opening up once in a while between sets. Still, often enough just once you get cooking some big comber comes in to be dodged, ridden over or grab your butt for a turn in the spin cycle.

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A clip about Gebi's ride south, visiting shoreside involuntarily before coming in with a very respectful fourth place.


It sounds like there are a ton of bizarre and exciting experiences on the way south, so tell us about it.

ricki
01-22-2008, 03:22 PM
I tried to clean up the video a bit with limited success. My apologies to Jeremy and his brother but it seems I was having some camera housing issues when I shot this. Promise the other videos will be much clearer. Anyway, on to Jeremy ...

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http://www.fksa.org/albums/album330/Winner.jpg
A photo of Jeremy at the awards ceremony courtesy of George Moore.

admin
01-23-2008, 10:58 AM
This was my third time doing this run since last year. My normally slow performance was even slower this time. Missed the start by about 15 minutes going back to change my 9 m for a 13 m, setting up, retuning the kite, twice (first time on a new kite in high wind). Went up thinking I might rig anything from a 7 m, 9m to a 13 m depending on actual wind conditions once the sun was up a bit. The 9 m was the best one to go with but was also the oldest of the three kites with highest bar pressure being an early flat kite. So, opted to use a new 13 m. Had a hard time edging out beyond the pier tacking more than at any other time. The wind had lightened, shifted onshore from side onshore from the north and I was having to sine a 13 m and edge very hard to try to get out. Managed to get past the pier, finally, and spent the next x miles in the breaker zone trying hard to work further offshore with more tacking, strange. The wind finally filled in and the 13 m spent most of the rest of the race around the zenith. Still, despite being well powered, I had some room to go before being teabagged, which may have happened twice coming off wave crests in 60 miles. Had very light bar pressure which was a plus for me. The trouble with riding with the kite near the zenith is that you can't go very fast. Staying well offshore in the breaker zone you can't go all that fast anyway before dealing with breaking waves. Got knocked off the board off the board about five times, once without the reel leash, ouch. Used a pull tie weak link on the reel leash that worked well as it broke once. Managed to roll the kite in a couple of waves and wrap the front and rear kite lines just south of the pier in Juno. Chose to ride like that all the way to Delray. It is interesting how much a wrap effects performance on an overpowered kite. Things got easier once I had it unwrapped at the Delray checkpoint. Think I lost at least 45 min. doing stupid stuff over last years ride just getting past Lake Worth Inlet.

Conditions were lighter than last year's pre-race nuking conditions but the waves were a bit larger and wind definitely stronger than last years actual race. Like last years runs, the waves diminished the further south you went, dropping off as you past each inlet a bit. Unlike last years runs, the wind built or stayed up all the way to the finish after the lulls around my start. Some weather moved over during the run, but fortunately no evil looking clouds or high gusty winds showed up. I was rolled once in the falls off Highland Beach. Fortunately, had the kite low and to the NW just before so I rolled around the lines instead of getting sushi rolled up in them.

Of Palmetto Park Blvd. in Boca I was shooting video while riding along when a manatee surfaced in front of me for air. I have never seen them out in such high seas before. Caught it on video too, stay tuned for the clip. Anyway, I never go into these things to race but to cruise. This time walking may have been faster. I feel like I am going downhill riding south and moving past Delray, things seem to be really downhill and easier. As you pass each inlet, time seems to speed up. Once I was south of Hillsboro Inlet, like last year, I was able to go a lot faster on the calmer water aside from times when the wind would spike up bringing the kite back up to the zenith.

Anyway, it was fun as always, pretty stiff in one leg today after the Jupiter run and 27 + 10 mile run in Naples two days before. Wondering if there are other distance races to happen this season? Hint!

Have to put together a video and perhaps a article with stills. It would really be good to hear from the dozens of other riders in this thing. What is it they say? Oh, yeah, if you don't write it down, it never happened!

So, what happened to you?

neil xrated
01-23-2008, 01:26 PM
Hi all,

What a great time it was on monday, think I have just started to get back to normall. Although I did not have any reports from lifeguards I did hear a few remarks of some riders entering swim areas, this is something that can not happen. Reports have been somewhat inconsistent so it is hard to put a accurate finger on it of exactly who and how much this did happen and I don't really want to bring the stoke down as I feel we all have to fine tune things with exact rules and proceedures and how they will be tackled and inforced in the future. If we are going to grow this event in the future it is very important that we take care of these issues for the access issues of beaches and the fairness of competition to all riders, especially when money is involved. For example if any beaches ever got shut down due to this event I would not sleep at night and if there is thousands of dollars at steak for the winners it has to be a fair playing feild.
Things are done for this year and it was a huge success but once again I have learnt a lot and have already started planning next years race and have some great ideas for it and how to resolve any discrepancies or flaws of this years race. We will fine tune things and make sure that every year it gets bigger and better than the last.

Thanks again to all, it was amazing. Cheers Neil

robertovillate
01-23-2008, 02:22 PM
This is an awesome thread.

Congrats to the winners and to anyone who even entered! You're all winners...what a great experience.

The stories are excellent reading and it's interesting to get the detailed descriptions and individual experiences - keep them coming. Old (friendly) rivalries, new champs and veterans, near kitemares with happy endings...all good stories. I'm hoping next time I can break away and enter.

Nice work Race Committee/volunteers! Most people have no idea how hard you guys work to make things go off, not to mention the sacrifice of your time.

stacey
01-23-2008, 02:26 PM
I rigged a little too big ... went on a 10 Bularoo and my directional, when I probably could have been on a 7. But there were times when I was definitely glad to have the power to pull me away from the giants.

The scariest part for me was the start ... with the wind so onshore, using my directional with big fins, I kept getting pushed into the sand (you can't just power through and ride the sand with such big fins, like you can do with a twintip), ending up way downwind of the start. I could see all the "lucky" people who had made it out beyond the shorebreak and were ready to start the race. I kept having to run back up the beach to try to get out, and I was panicked and dehydrated. Finally, at 8:57, I eeked through some whitewater and was on my way out, although far south of the starting line, but in one tack with my board, I was back where I needed to be, in the nick of time.

Another scary part was right before the Lake Worth Pier when I didn't give myself a wide enough berth, then got munched by a wave and almost got pushed into it. I was happy to have my directional, which I needed to make a hard upwind cut, and just managed to squeak between the pylons and make it through. Very sketchy. However, I'm not so sure I did any better this year on a directional than I did last year on a TT. Last year, I broke a footstrap and lost some time there having it repaired by some innocent bystander. This year, I was only about 18 minutes faster than last year, but I didn't have to stop for equipment repairs. (For the Naples Race, which was completely downwind, yes, directional much better ... this race, not so sure.)

On account of the issues I had in Naples, I kept saying, "Don't drop the kite," but because I was so overpowered and riding with my kite at 12 the whole time, it wasn't really an issue, and even when I got eaten by some waves, the kite was at 12 and lifting me up. Luckily I had a board leash for the 2 times I lost my board, and wearing a seat harness helped ... otherwise, my harness would have been around my neck.

Last year, I could stop paying attention to the waves soon after the Delray checkpoint, but this time, I was constantly running from waves until I got to Ft. Lauderdale, where it was just choppy. There were times when I had no choice but to go as fast as I could ... overpowered, hanging on, and trying not to explode ... but when it got closer to Ft. Lauderdale and I was really tired, I had to tell myself to just keep going ... half an hour more ... etc. That last stretch seemed like a never-ending journey in hell ... kept thinking, "Water, water ... I need water."

I was SO happy when I finished. Shannon owes a couple of people some money.

neil xrated
01-23-2008, 02:54 PM
Yeah Stacey, your right I forgot about that. Shannon owes me too. Sweet. Neil

ricki
01-23-2008, 09:27 PM
Next round is on Shannon, way to go! Do folks have photos of the event? If so, let's see them.

Laura shot this just after the start ...

http://www.fksa.org/albums/album330/start.jpg

stacey
01-24-2008, 12:08 PM
Again, a little Best-slanted, but still some pretty cool footage ... helicopter looks so cool hovering between the kites at aroud 2:28.

http://www.bestkiteboarding.com/Videos?loadVideo=http://media.bestkiteboarding.com/videos/60_mile_race.wmv

eclipsedave
01-24-2008, 08:15 PM
Great race neil here are some pics of the start a friend sent me she took from the pier ENJOY

ricki
02-05-2008, 07:54 PM
There are some magazine articles being prepared about this event. Remember what I said about "if you don't write it down, it never happened?" Help me get some of you guys into the spot light by passing on what you went through on the way to Ft. Lauderdale. It will give us all something to look back on during the long, calm days of summer. So, how about it?