Revisiting the Signs to be made

[Wolfie]

I have contacted sign companies with what we came up with. I asked them to give me a bid on a one sided corrugated plastic sign 1ft by 1.5 ft. This could be stuck in the ground on a wire base. This is what I've been getting back:

Thank you for your request.
Quantity of 5 or more - $15.00 each
Quantity of 10 or more - $10.00 each

Production time is 3 - 4 days. We will need camera-ready art (vector format) for production.

I have a few questions. At this price I will make about 5-7. I will provide the wire posts. I can pass them out to those are often out there. The questions are:
1) Did we still want to pursue the band thing for identification?
2) Can anyone do this camera-ready art (vector format)? I do not know if it costs extra but I will find out.

[Wolfie]

bryanleighty- Do you mind reposting the last draft of "the" Sign. Also can you do one with East Beach at the top...or better yet a non-site specific one to be used at both spots. Thank you Brother!

[Skyway Scott]

Vector based. That's interesting they phrased it that way. They must be anticipating graphics.
I think if it's only words, saving it as a true type font or EPS is all we have to do.
Is that right, Tom?

[Wolfie]

Have we lost all momentum on this?

[Unimog Bob]

Seems like we've lost a lot. The wife should be back in town Tues. She has almost every graphics program known to man. Find out what file extension they want and I'll have her convert Bryan's last effort.

Bob

[Danimal8199]

Wolfie,

I had a quasi sarcastic post about my debut at the skyway:

http://fksa.org/showthread.php?t=4646

It seems as much talk that goes on here when I showed up at the skyway there was much less action as far as anyone questioning me.

I was also there the other day and a guy made a pass real close to the beach and actually got dragged onto the beach by his kite.

So here is this guy running across the ground trying not to fall as his kite is pulling him and not one person said anything to him about riding that close...

As far as signs go they are pretty much useless in my opinion unless people are going to speak up.

[BigR]

Dan , b/c the people that do this

a guy made a pass real close to the beach and actually got dragged onto the beach by his kite.

So here is this guy running across the ground trying not to fall as his kite is pulling him and not one person said anything to him about riding that close...


Know quite well what they are doing and continue anyways.

So I think people have given up since obviously we are preaching to the choir

[bryanleighty]

i didnt check forum all weekend..

what about PDF format?
I can save it any format needed .. i used photoshop to create the sign.. can save it as psd, eps, pdf, etc..

give me a call.. ill pm you my phone number..


Bryan

I still think the sign is the LEAST we can do for a start..
Yes.. people need to speak up..
Yes.. minor accidents are a dime a dozen, but when thing are so damn obviously a result of someone doing something very unsafe thats when we need to talk to people.

I guess you were not at LP when Scott told that instructor what he thought about his unsafe practices. Go Scott go! Exactly the kind of enforcing we need in that situation.

[Skyway Scott]

I recommend getting as high res. as possible, then saving as EPS.

Danimal, I agree, signs without talk won't do much.
Consistent talk and agreements without signs is probably more powerful.
As you said, people communicate ideas and enforce things. I never saw a speed limit sign stop a speeder.
I am fairly certain this is the approach (people communicating) that is going to be used at Lassing and am also extremely confident it is going to work. I am confident it will work primarily due to the high proportion of riders at Lassing who care about safety and the understanding(s) that have been reached out there recently among the riders.

Not to be too much of a downer, but I gave up hope on anything useful happening at the SW awhile ago after what I saw and decided not to ride there much anymore. Too many behaviors have been too thoroughly engrained over the years as acceptable in too many riders to expect a change. That's my take.
It's really too bad the place is SO close to an interstate. I wouldn't be as concerned if I didn't think our odds of killing someone in a car with a runaway kite weren't so high.

Thing is, a large number of the people that also take safety seriously feel the same way about the SW and decided to ride the SW much less as well. This leaves a smaller number of people that might speak up at the SW, while concentrating them at Lassing. This scenario only increases the odds of not being approached at the SW if you are totally clueless or a new rider.

I can tell you this though. You would have definitely been approached at Lassing.
I am confident we have at least 8 guys who take safety seriously out there and will help to keep people informed and protect our access at Lassing.

[Russky]

2) Can anyone do this camera-ready art (vector format)?
I do not know if it costs extra but I will find out.


Scott (Wolfie), could you ask them what exactly they mean by "vector format" (file format, file size limitations, etc. tech stuff)?
If it has anything to do with CorelDraw/CorelTrace vectorized graphics, I might help...

-Dennis

[popeye]

Typically vector format means something like a Corel .DXF file or possibly a PostScript file (a vector based file in standard printer language) rather than a BMP (pixel based file).

Vector based means file is structured such that a straight line is recorded with it's start and end points, rather than every pixel on the line as in a pixel based file.

Basically Vector files are easier to scale for printing because they do not pixelate when scaled up or down, regardless of size.

[Danimal8199]

I have actually never been approached at Lassing but that is perhaps because I ride there with people who are more known than myself (I won't name drop). Or it could be because I most of the time engage the conversations in a attempt to meet new riders and most of the time this conversation is how people find out that I have taken lessons and how long I have been riding and so on.



I can tell you this though. You would have definitely been approached at Lassing.
I am confident we have at least 8 guys who take safety seriously out there and will help to keep people informed and protect our access at Lassing.

The main concern is I guess awareness. I will only ride the skyway out of the east and this is only because the tide is usually too low for my comfort at lassing, and I have never kited at backside(except for lessons).

So as a group we just have to keep pounding out our concern for safety and riding spots. Eventually everyone should comply because they will get tired of hearing us :)

[Skyway Scott]

I meant if launching a 20m in 30 knots you would have been approached and asked what is up :)

[Sean B]

Good post. I think "most" instructors and every rider would comply with such a system. It has my support.