Im ready

[inferno]

now i just need a hurricane.....

i have a 21m nemi for are seabreezes 9-15 knots
i have a 16m rhino for the normal days(thanx to E) 13-22knots
still have the 14m X3(probably going to sell it) 17-24knots
just got a 9m waroo( thanx to bayflite) 18-35knots

and also just recieved a FREE(30 bucks to ship it) 2002 airrush ATV 6.4 meter, found it online and the guy said he'd give it away, i openned it up, and it looks brand new, still crispy and brightly colored, should be good for 30-40+ knots :D

Raul, i got my high wind kites now :D

[ricki]

Be careful at the upper end. That 2002 6.4 m kite may in fact have a flat area approaching 1.36 * 6.4 m or closer to 9 m without the potential depowering capability of the Waroo. I don't think they started using actual flat kite areas across the board in labeling kites until 2003. I have an Airblast 6.3 m from the same year, it started to max out at or before 30 kts.

[inferno]

it says on the kite, 6.4 flat, and i think it also said 5.3 projected, something like that,
its definately a small kite, reminded me of scotts kite he was flying at NB in 30 knots, looked like a little blimp :D

[ricki]

Good, I stand corrected. I was going to offer you my old Airblast!

[BigR]

Cool, doesn't Scott have the same little air rush?

At least now I'll have someone else to kite with at north bch on nukin' days if Scott doesn't come back! :o

[JoshTaylor]

Cool, doesn't Scott have the same little air rush?

At least now I'll have someone else to kite with at north bch on nukin' days if Scott doesn't come back! :owell I have a 7 meter switchblade, and will be driving soon, so you should have 2 people to kite with on nukin' days :lol:

[Skyway Scott]

I have a Airush Pilot 6m. Its the smallest size made in the pilot line.
It is cut like a GTO and feels pretty small and is very stable and handles gusts well.

I rode an ATV several years ago. It flew bigger than the number, not smaller. In other words, I think Rick is right. I can hold down the little green pilot in 40 fairly easily. I wouldn't want to try that on that ATV :shock:
Maybe I am wrong, I really hope I have the kites mixed in my mind :o
Try it in 25 to 30 first, not 40, just to be safe.

[toby wilson]

Well, I have Josh's old 7M Fuel so MY fat ass will be riding in some pretty high winds!!! :D

[BigR]

don't be so sure Toby,

I have been able to ride a 7m c kite ( 2001 cabrinha 7m blacktip ) in as low as 18 kts but not higher than 28 kts. I had to switch to a 5.6m after that.

The new bow kites actually let you go -20 to +30 easily ( like on my 9m Xbow )

[JoshTaylor]

don't be so sure Toby,

I have been able to ride a 7m c kite ( 2001 cabrinha 7m blacktip ) in as low as 18 kts but not higher than 28 kts. I had to switch to a 5.6m after that.

The new bow kites actually let you go -20 to +30 easily ( like on my 9m Xbow )i've rode that 7 meter toby has in 35+ knots, litt outa my mind, but could hold it down fairly easy.

my switchblade i've been in 35 to 40, with absoltly not problem.. still throwing kiteloops in that... can't imagine the max on that kite for me.

[BigR]

Josh,

max for me on the 7m XBow so far has been about 50 kts ( at about 200 #"s )

[JoshTaylor]

Josh,

max for me on the 7m XBow so far has been about 50 kts ( at about 200 #"s )eh.... i love being litt, so i think i could hold it down to about 50 kts.. maybe more.

in 35-40 i only depowerd it about an inch on the secondary, and was throwing kiteloops with no problem.

I was the only one on the water.. a squall came through, i'm just guessing it was around 35-40.

[Optionryder420]

Have that on a meter or just guessing?

[inferno]

josh, dont get to cocky, id like to see you make it to pro :D

[JoshTaylor]

Have that on a meter or just guessing?guessing, but i'm pretty sure it was in that range.

I was the only kiter there that went out in it, i had to depower my switchblade a little, that means it's over 30

i can hold that kite down without any depower untill around 30+

thats also not the only time i've been in nuking winds with it.. texas it was 30+ peak everyday.

not to mention TS alberto


Danny,

I plan on it :D

yet, it's just making me get even more crazy :lol:

[Skyway Scott]

LOL... good stuff. 50 knots!! 50 knots is DAMN windy!!

Raul, can I use this line to promote bow kites?:
The new bow kites actually let you go -20 to +30 easily ( like on my 9m Xbow )

Negative 20 to 30 is an amazing range for a kite :D
Sorry, I am just in a funny/good mood cuz we just had solid 18 for 2. 5 hours. That makes 4 days in a row with more to come and Donna is visiting this weekend :D She is really ripping up the waves here (while I just kind of crash off of them :x )

[BigR]

Scott, I've got that line trademarked but you can use it :lol:


the funniest part is when you're at -20 and your kite is flyin' backwards, LOL! :shock:

[inferno]

do you guys find it difficult to go upwind in -20???

josh, that switch blade 7 must be amazing cause ive seen you ride it in 17-18, and you say it works to 50 aswell :shock:
thats a huge range...

[BigR]

Yeah, Lori is definitely getting her 7m XBow starting at 18knts> Me , I get started with it at 22kts / although I would say its sweet spot for me is more like 25-42kts


Danny , I go BACKWIND at -20 , LOL!!!! :shock: :lol: :o :D :roll:

[Skyway Scott]

I have found at -20 that I can do inverted tricks :)
I have been riding the 12m Contra in as litte as solid 10 knots up to 20 knots.
Last night was a perfect example. It started at 9 to 11 and I used a Glide (going upwind in current) then it picked up to about 17 to 20 and I just hopped on a smaller board (Skywalker 130).

The Contra is not the only bow that can do this. We have a local rider who uses his 12m Waroo just about every time he rides.

There is no way I could have rigged a C last night (me personally) for 10 and then held on to 20. I am not efficient enough to make a 14 work in 10 (Daryl is). I would need an 18. Then I'd get blown out in about 16 on it. The bow/hybrids definitely are cool for windranges.

The other thing I realized while riding last night : you can have more people on the water safely in tight quarters with bows. In the old days, having several people truly close in windy/gusty was asking for it, cuz someone was going to HAVE TO put their kite low to avoid getting tea-bagged at some point. If this was the upwind rider, it posed a quandry for that rider.

Now, even in 20 last night, someone is downwind of me 30 feet? I am litt? Big deal -- kite high, sheet out, no problem. Kind of cool and good for the sport, IMO :)

[BigR]

Scott, You tried the 12m XBow II yet?

I've got one I'm gonna try demo this weekend , if we get some wind hopefully here in tampa :)

Maybe we can try the contra and xbII 12 side by side to see how they compare if you come down sometime

[LittleL]

Scott sounds like you went over to the darkside with the bow kites and a Contra Wow :P Hope we catch up with you and Donna soon for some kiting either west or east coast.

I have been loving those bow kites for awhile. I have to say when I was at the Gorge I was wondering how the heck I used to ride the 8 nitro out there. I was on the 7xbow everyday except for one day on the 9xbow. I think I used to just hang on for my life out there with the nitro 8M kite. Crazy stuff would not do that now.

Also when we went to the Oregon coast I had no problem in the waves and was on the 7xbow the whole time. I think it was about 18-25 and surpisingly it was great in 18 and if it had picked up to 30 I would still be fine. 35+ is no fun for me even on the 7 cuz all I do is ride around with arms out as far as they go :shock: I don't think I would have been able to ride on the Oregon coast on the C kite.

[JoshTaylor]

do you guys find it difficult to go upwind in -20???

josh, that switch blade 7 must be amazing cause ive seen you ride it in 17-18, and you say it works to 50 aswell :shock:
thats a huge range...yeah, little exasuration... 40-45 max MAYBE

i'll let you know this weekend.. just have the wind meter out when it really starts crankin

they are definitly amazing kites.


The last time I got insanly litt and out of power i was riding a C kite :lol:

[tomstock]

17 to 50? Hrrrmmzzz... gotta see that to believe it. That's a one kite Quiver.

Btw, 50 knots is 60mph.

[inferno]

17 to 50? Hrrrmmzzz... gotta see that to believe it. That's a one kite Quiver.

Btw, 50 knots is 60mph.

so whats -20knots???
is that -23mph or would it be -17mph???

[ricki]

I tried 60 mph once, I think anyway, can't really be too sure. Still, that is what nearby wind records said. Also, it was with a first generation four line LEI, the Naish AR5, a 9.5 m. I had been riding for two years prior to that time.

The experience sucked, big time. 60 mph can create a ton of power, an amazing quantity at blinding speed, more than your mind can grasp.

Flat kites are truly an innovation. Then again, I had one invert once many months back. It dragged me out of control and bent a 1 inch diameter solid carbon control bar 3/4 inch out of linearity. This was only in about 30 mph too. I sheeted out too much after a small jump causing it to invert, my bad. That was with an early kite tuned for max depower at the pigtails, which was also probably a mistake, the new ones are less prone to invert.

Experienced guys are four times more likely to lose it in a kiting accident than newbies. Why is that?

[BigR]

'cause they are more aggressive , and mistakes happen when you are

[tomstock]

In 50mph, you need to bury your board in the sand or it'll blow away and tumble down the beach. I can't imagine even considering riding in 60mph.

When you dive your kite hard in 60 just how fast are you going in that 1 second?

[Skyway Scott]

128.4. Remember ? Thought you had that on video :D

[Optionryder420]

Scott was that the day you broke that bar?

[Skyway Scott]

Yeah, that was pretty embarrassing. Trainer kite in 60 to faceplant :oops:

[inferno]

my patience payed off, i just got a 14m waroo for 650 :D
blue and green flown three times :D
now i just need wind